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	<title>Comments on: JC: elephant or donkey?</title>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the church does what she is supposed to do the gates of hell will not prevail.

I was just looking over some of my notes and saw this. Thought I'd add it here. 

Hope you are doing ok.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the church does what she is supposed to do the gates of hell will not prevail.</p>
<p>I was just looking over some of my notes and saw this. Thought I&#8217;d add it here. </p>
<p>Hope you are doing ok.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.electrolund.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.electrolund.com/2004/01/jc-elephant-or-donkey/comment-page-1#comment-757</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 01:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, I've heard our pastor teach a couple of times, something very interesting. In Matthew 16:18 Jesus talks about the church and how the gates of Hades will not overcome it. Taken in context, in this chapter Jesus is talking about the religious and polital rulers. Pharisees and Sadducees. It was customary for the political "stuff" to be held at the gates of a town. Therefore, Jesus is talking about the political parties/structure/rulers, if you will, not overcoming the church. The church has every right and responsibility to stand up to our political authority. I liked Amber's term moral excellence.

I thought that totally changed the feel of that scripture. Jesus was really speaking out against them, calling them the gates of Hell!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, I&#8217;ve heard our pastor teach a couple of times, something very interesting. In Matthew 16:18 Jesus talks about the church and how the gates of Hades will not overcome it. Taken in context, in this chapter Jesus is talking about the religious and polital rulers. Pharisees and Sadducees. It was customary for the political &#8220;stuff&#8221; to be held at the gates of a town. Therefore, Jesus is talking about the political parties/structure/rulers, if you will, not overcoming the church. The church has every right and responsibility to stand up to our political authority. I liked Amber&#8217;s term moral excellence.</p>
<p>I thought that totally changed the feel of that scripture. Jesus was really speaking out against them, calling them the gates of Hell!</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I think of Republican vs Democrat it isn't taxation and foreign policy I think about.  It is morality.

When it comes to morality Jesus was pretty clear.  You could argue that abortion alone is violation of the two most important commandments you list.

When it comes to Biblical morality the Democratic party is dead, IMO.

Most of the time when Jesus was asked to give His opinion on morality issues it was a trick by the phariees.  He would answer in a way that turned the tables back on them.

Honestly, I don't think Jesus would even vote anyway.  He is interested in man on an individual basis, not on a group basis, which is what politics is anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I think of Republican vs Democrat it isn&#8217;t taxation and foreign policy I think about.  It is morality.</p>
<p>When it comes to morality Jesus was pretty clear.  You could argue that abortion alone is violation of the two most important commandments you list.</p>
<p>When it comes to Biblical morality the Democratic party is dead, IMO.</p>
<p>Most of the time when Jesus was asked to give His opinion on morality issues it was a trick by the phariees.  He would answer in a way that turned the tables back on them.</p>
<p>Honestly, I don&#8217;t think Jesus would even vote anyway.  He is interested in man on an individual basis, not on a group basis, which is what politics is anyway.</p>
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