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		<title>By: Terri</title>
		<link>http://www.electrolund.com/2005/12/what-is-christianity#comment-6048</link>
		<dc:creator>Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christianity is a life long relationship.  Salvation is when you meet.  This may sound overly romantic, but really, what are the scriptures emphasizing if not full reconciliation with God?  I have many friends; the closest ones are the ones I have the most conflict with, love the most deeply and am loved by most deeply.  They have been the clearest picture of what my relationship with God is like.  It is an ongoing discussion - sometimes in words, usually through demonstration (I will eventually connect something I've been praying about with something that is repeatedly happening around me or to me), usually spoken through the people around me (they're usually oblivious to the fact that they're answering prayer for me).  
Relationships are cultivated, chosen.  Some people are really hard to know, but you get glimpses of their inner world and find it stunning and it pushes you to know them even when you don't easily click with them or understand them naturally.  This is what it is like for me and God in the hard places where I don't want him to be right or I don't want to go where he's asking me to go (usually emotionally, occasionally physically).  I have found enough in scripture and in past experience to know I trust God enough to want to trust him in scary places; I trust he'll make up the difference.  That's my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christianity is a life long relationship.  Salvation is when you meet.  This may sound overly romantic, but really, what are the scriptures emphasizing if not full reconciliation with God?  I have many friends; the closest ones are the ones I have the most conflict with, love the most deeply and am loved by most deeply.  They have been the clearest picture of what my relationship with God is like.  It is an ongoing discussion - sometimes in words, usually through demonstration (I will eventually connect something I&#8217;ve been praying about with something that is repeatedly happening around me or to me), usually spoken through the people around me (they&#8217;re usually oblivious to the fact that they&#8217;re answering prayer for me).<br />
Relationships are cultivated, chosen.  Some people are really hard to know, but you get glimpses of their inner world and find it stunning and it pushes you to know them even when you don&#8217;t easily click with them or understand them naturally.  This is what it is like for me and God in the hard places where I don&#8217;t want him to be right or I don&#8217;t want to go where he&#8217;s asking me to go (usually emotionally, occasionally physically).  I have found enough in scripture and in past experience to know I trust God enough to want to trust him in scary places; I trust he&#8217;ll make up the difference.  That&#8217;s my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl V.</title>
		<link>http://www.electrolund.com/2005/12/what-is-christianity#comment-6039</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 13:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you're alright!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you&#8217;re alright!</p>
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		<title>By: Ciera</title>
		<link>http://www.electrolund.com/2005/12/what-is-christianity#comment-6038</link>
		<dc:creator>Ciera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ouch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ouch</p>
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		<title>By: Hojun4</title>
		<link>http://www.electrolund.com/2005/12/what-is-christianity#comment-6037</link>
		<dc:creator>Hojun4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at a Bible study at church on Nov. 8th...I was holding the cap from a water bottle (20 oz. water bottle with a screw-on cap like a Pepsi or Dr. Pepper) in my left hand.  I raised my hand to wipe my mouth (with the back of my hand) and a friend of mine made a joke.  I inhaled and the bottle cap lodged right in middle of my trachea.  No air for a while until the second person who tried the heimlich was successful -- the cap hit the back of my tongue and I inhaled (hadn't breathed in a while) and it got stuck again.  So, I swallowed it (OUCH!) and it lodged on the food side of the esophagus -- got to ride in two ambulances, go to two hospitals, had LOTS of morphine (WORST pain I have ever felt!), and 16 hours later, it was removed from my esophagus.  For every moment during that time, I was afraid that the cap would flip over and block the airway again and it was too low to do a trach...

  As a result, I had a very different perspective when I turned 30 a couple of weeks ago...

  Folks, don't try this at home... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at a Bible study at church on Nov. 8th&#8230;I was holding the cap from a water bottle (20 oz. water bottle with a screw-on cap like a Pepsi or Dr. Pepper) in my left hand.  I raised my hand to wipe my mouth (with the back of my hand) and a friend of mine made a joke.  I inhaled and the bottle cap lodged right in middle of my trachea.  No air for a while until the second person who tried the heimlich was successful &#8212; the cap hit the back of my tongue and I inhaled (hadn&#8217;t breathed in a while) and it got stuck again.  So, I swallowed it (OUCH!) and it lodged on the food side of the esophagus &#8212; got to ride in two ambulances, go to two hospitals, had LOTS of morphine (WORST pain I have ever felt!), and 16 hours later, it was removed from my esophagus.  For every moment during that time, I was afraid that the cap would flip over and block the airway again and it was too low to do a trach&#8230;</p>
<p>  As a result, I had a very different perspective when I turned 30 a couple of weeks ago&#8230;</p>
<p>  Folks, don&#8217;t try this at home&#8230; <img src='http://www.electrolund.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Ciera</title>
		<link>http://www.electrolund.com/2005/12/what-is-christianity#comment-6035</link>
		<dc:creator>Ciera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 19:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't believe how much of the comments in this post are hitting upon some issues that are flying about my own church right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe how much of the comments in this post are hitting upon some issues that are flying about my own church right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.electrolund.com/2005/12/what-is-christianity#comment-6033</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My goodness, Hojun, how'd you almost choke to death?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goodness, Hojun, how&#8217;d you almost choke to death?!</p>
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		<title>By: Hojun4</title>
		<link>http://www.electrolund.com/2005/12/what-is-christianity#comment-6025</link>
		<dc:creator>Hojun4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think that all altar calls are bad, but I will have to say that a great many that I have seen are nothing more than emotional appeals.  But, if God is calling someone, they will hear -- in spite of the preaching.

  My biggest beef with the altar call is the term "altar" itself.  If we still need an altar, then Christ's sacrifice was not enough.  Christ's sacrifice did away with the need for any altar.

  I don't understand the idea that the front of the church is more holy than anywhere else.  We worship in spirit and truth and our God has never been hampered by location.

  Perhaps the front of the church / walking there, etc. becomes more of a psychological step which assists people in coming to a decision and making it public.  But, I cannot find explicit scriptural basis for such practices.  But, neither can I find scriptural references for "Sunday School" either.  So, that does not make either inherently bad in and of themselves.

  I don't understand the "new" need to oversimplify things -- perhaps it is a reaction to the church's past history of over-complicating issues.  We come to God with a child-like faith, but we should not stay there (else Paul is wasting his time when he chastises the Corinthians for being unable to chew "solid food").  

  It seems to me that we need to find some balance between being "Bereans" and searching, analyzing, and studying the Scripture and allowing ourselves to feel / experience emotion in worship.  And since when is worship just singing?  Studying, praying, preaching, discipling, obeying, and living holy lives are all elements / acts of worship.

  One of the most troubling experiences in my life was when I went to a U2 concert on my 25th birthday.  I was less than 50 feet from the stage and they played most of my favorite songs.  Upon leaving, I felt this emotional high like I had never felt before -- it literally lasted for about a month.  I really started to question whether emotional high was necessarily an indicator of God's presence or absence. 

  When I recently almost choked to death, I felt a peace that transcended any emotional high I had ever felt and I certainly was not enjoying myself!  I just realized that this could be the end of my time on earth and the only thing that could save me from eternity in hell was God's presence in my life which was provided by the sacrifice of Christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that all altar calls are bad, but I will have to say that a great many that I have seen are nothing more than emotional appeals.  But, if God is calling someone, they will hear &#8212; in spite of the preaching.</p>
<p>  My biggest beef with the altar call is the term &#8220;altar&#8221; itself.  If we still need an altar, then Christ&#8217;s sacrifice was not enough.  Christ&#8217;s sacrifice did away with the need for any altar.</p>
<p>  I don&#8217;t understand the idea that the front of the church is more holy than anywhere else.  We worship in spirit and truth and our God has never been hampered by location.</p>
<p>  Perhaps the front of the church / walking there, etc. becomes more of a psychological step which assists people in coming to a decision and making it public.  But, I cannot find explicit scriptural basis for such practices.  But, neither can I find scriptural references for &#8220;Sunday School&#8221; either.  So, that does not make either inherently bad in and of themselves.</p>
<p>  I don&#8217;t understand the &#8220;new&#8221; need to oversimplify things &#8212; perhaps it is a reaction to the church&#8217;s past history of over-complicating issues.  We come to God with a child-like faith, but we should not stay there (else Paul is wasting his time when he chastises the Corinthians for being unable to chew &#8220;solid food&#8221;).  </p>
<p>  It seems to me that we need to find some balance between being &#8220;Bereans&#8221; and searching, analyzing, and studying the Scripture and allowing ourselves to feel / experience emotion in worship.  And since when is worship just singing?  Studying, praying, preaching, discipling, obeying, and living holy lives are all elements / acts of worship.</p>
<p>  One of the most troubling experiences in my life was when I went to a U2 concert on my 25th birthday.  I was less than 50 feet from the stage and they played most of my favorite songs.  Upon leaving, I felt this emotional high like I had never felt before &#8212; it literally lasted for about a month.  I really started to question whether emotional high was necessarily an indicator of God&#8217;s presence or absence. </p>
<p>  When I recently almost choked to death, I felt a peace that transcended any emotional high I had ever felt and I certainly was not enjoying myself!  I just realized that this could be the end of my time on earth and the only thing that could save me from eternity in hell was God&#8217;s presence in my life which was provided by the sacrifice of Christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: had</title>
		<link>http://www.electrolund.com/2005/12/what-is-christianity#comment-6024</link>
		<dc:creator>had</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 01:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rob, you called me HAD!  and you're just jealous you're not an evangel geek!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rob, you called me HAD!  and you&#8217;re just jealous you&#8217;re not an evangel geek!</p>
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		<title>By: Carl V.</title>
		<link>http://www.electrolund.com/2005/12/what-is-christianity#comment-6017</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not the biggest fan of fire and brimstone teachings but I do believe there are different types of sermons that make more of an impact on one person vs another and although a person may hear the same call over and over again I believe that God gets everyone to a place, multiple times, in which we finally "hear" the message and can make a choice.  I think the emotional part is an important part of our initial connection with God as emotions do play a big part in our lives and what impacts us and it is only through maturity that we begin to rely on faith and not feelings.  I do think it is highly important that churchs, and we as individuals, recognize the need to disciple new believers so they can have a much deeper relationship with God and understand that they don't have to keep making that walk down the aisle.

I don't entirely fault preachers for making people feel, based on emotional pleas for Christ, that they need to walk down the aisle again.  Its easy to start feeling overwhelmed with guilt, fear, etc. once you make a decision to accept Christ and try to become more holy. That is a very normal thing for a baby Christian to do and is something that should be explained to them immediately after they accept Christ.

I also place a great deal of responsibility on the person, especially if they are an adult.  We are one of the few cultures in the world who are brought up from birth to expect that everything be given to them...handed to them with little or no work.  If an adult makes a commitment to Christ some of the responsibility for picking up the Bible and going to church to learn, etc. has to fall on them.  I think one area where churches can improve is in emphasizing more of the commitment aspect of accepting Christ rather than just presenting it as a way to escape hell.

I also think it is important for people to recognize that there are different churches with different callings/missions and it is important as a believer to be in the right church for where you are in your life.  This is something else I think is important to teach new believers...you have to be hearing stuff that challenges you to grow, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not the biggest fan of fire and brimstone teachings but I do believe there are different types of sermons that make more of an impact on one person vs another and although a person may hear the same call over and over again I believe that God gets everyone to a place, multiple times, in which we finally &#8220;hear&#8221; the message and can make a choice.  I think the emotional part is an important part of our initial connection with God as emotions do play a big part in our lives and what impacts us and it is only through maturity that we begin to rely on faith and not feelings.  I do think it is highly important that churchs, and we as individuals, recognize the need to disciple new believers so they can have a much deeper relationship with God and understand that they don&#8217;t have to keep making that walk down the aisle.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t entirely fault preachers for making people feel, based on emotional pleas for Christ, that they need to walk down the aisle again.  Its easy to start feeling overwhelmed with guilt, fear, etc. once you make a decision to accept Christ and try to become more holy. That is a very normal thing for a baby Christian to do and is something that should be explained to them immediately after they accept Christ.</p>
<p>I also place a great deal of responsibility on the person, especially if they are an adult.  We are one of the few cultures in the world who are brought up from birth to expect that everything be given to them&#8230;handed to them with little or no work.  If an adult makes a commitment to Christ some of the responsibility for picking up the Bible and going to church to learn, etc. has to fall on them.  I think one area where churches can improve is in emphasizing more of the commitment aspect of accepting Christ rather than just presenting it as a way to escape hell.</p>
<p>I also think it is important for people to recognize that there are different churches with different callings/missions and it is important as a believer to be in the right church for where you are in your life.  This is something else I think is important to teach new believers&#8230;you have to be hearing stuff that challenges you to grow, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.electrolund.com/2005/12/what-is-christianity#comment-6016</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jules, I think you are an exception, someone who sought God out on your own after walking the aisle.  There's nothing wrong with that.

In my experience, I remember seeing the same people walk the aisle every week for salvation, despite being taught that salvation was a single event.  What, did it not "stick" the first time?

Or then there were the other people, the outsiders not raised in church, who walked down the aisle but never returned to church.  I began to wonder if perhaps the method of convincing them to walk the aisle in the first place -- using more fear of hell, than desire to commune with God -- was flawed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jules, I think you are an exception, someone who sought God out on your own after walking the aisle.  There&#8217;s nothing wrong with that.</p>
<p>In my experience, I remember seeing the same people walk the aisle every week for salvation, despite being taught that salvation was a single event.  What, did it not &#8220;stick&#8221; the first time?</p>
<p>Or then there were the other people, the outsiders not raised in church, who walked down the aisle but never returned to church.  I began to wonder if perhaps the method of convincing them to walk the aisle in the first place &#8212; using more fear of hell, than desire to commune with God &#8212; was flawed.</p>
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