Comments Posted By Dick
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Sean, If these scammers are reading this website, well, they are very slow learners. Fact is those of us who are aware of these scams are a tiny minority out of the big pool of fish the scammers are feeding on.
I bet this website is not as annoying to the scammers as one flea is to a dog.
If we are going to be concerned about the criminal element by what we share in an open forum, then we have already given up our freedom. I prefer to subscribe to the “Live Free or Die” motto of the State of New Hampshire.
» Posted By Dick On June 12, 2008 @ 6:47 pm
I think the scam is well explained here but I realize that few of us have time to read the whole thing, so I’ll attempt to give my short explanation as I understand it.
* You deposit the check in your bank
* You pay the shipper (this area is a little grey, I don’t believe the shipper ever shows up, you probably get a call saying to send so much money to such and such and the pickup will take place on some date in the future).
* The shipper (in cahoots with the scammer, actually probably is the scammer) takes your money.
* The bank notifies you that the check you deposited is no good and they want their money back NOW! (Of course you don’t have it all because you sent a tidy sum to the ‘shipper’)
* Your reputation with the bank is damaged, possible criminal charges for passing a bad check, etc. etc.
* Scammer heard laughing all the way to his real bank.
So far as the address is concerned, I suspect the address’s the scammers use are really address’s someone was foolish enough to share with them. If you did, maybe you’ll see your address posted here someday, I keep expecting mine to show up. (That’s just a little consolation, misery loves company).
I hope this helps. It may not be 100% accurate but it is my understanding of how this scam works.
» Posted By Dick On March 20, 2008 @ 3:29 pm
Yes, he’s a scammer and he wants your money. Read my entry in the list from November 2, 2007 at 11:22 am, it attempts to explain how this scam works.
You an waste a lot of time playing with these guys nut my recommendation is to block his address and move on. I’ve given up attempting to sell most things on Craigslist because you have to spend so much time with the scammers emails.
» Posted By Dick On March 9, 2008 @ 11:22 am
Excellent point PK, that’s why I always use a disposable email address. If you use Yahoo, then you have access to Yahoo disposable address’s. My personal favorite however is sneakemail (go to http://www.sneakemail.com). I never give out my ‘real’ address to anyone, always a disposable address. Then is it gets compromised (excessive spam, viruses, whatever), you pitch it an create a new one. In my world each person or company I correspond with gets their own, unique sneakemail address.
» Posted By Dick On January 31, 2008 @ 4:12 pm
Good question, why don’t you send an email to insticheck and ask them. Their website says to send comments and questions to gethelp@InstiCheck.com
Nvertheless, it is still a scam!
» Posted By Dick On November 21, 2007 @ 11:36 am
It’s really not worth the effort -but- the first few I got I toyed with, once I understood WHAT (scammers aren’t really human, are they?) I was dealing with I replied with the following (under the dashed line). Now days I just add their email address to my blocked address list and move on (btw, I appreciate people posting scammers email address’s, then we can be proactive to block them before we ever hear from them) it would be nice to report them to someone, but until a crime has been committed (i.e. you’ve been screwed) I don’t believe anyone is really able or willing to do anything (which points out the fallacy of ‘police protection’ in these things, it’s really investigation AFTER you’ve been had!)
RESPONSE TO SCAMMER
I have some red flags that have gone up.
What you are proposing is not acceptable. When we originally posted this item we posted on the local Craigslist so we could meet face to face with the buyer. Based on your emails I assume you are not local to me. So, first off I need to know more about you. I would like you to tell me more about who you are so I know who Iâ€™m dealing with.
Please reply with your Address and a phone number in case we need to talk.
Your proposal to send more money than the amount for the item is also not acceptable. I will only accept payment for the item itself, you will have to deal with the cargo company yourself, I will not be a middle man.
There was a time in this world when a money order or cashiers check was an acceptable form of payment. Unfortunately those days are long gone. My bank tells me there is only one truly safe way to do this. You send cash via FedEx and insure it for your protection. I will then be able to release the furniture to your cargo company immediately upon receipt of the cash.
I will notify you immediately upon receipt of your cash payment.
» Posted By Dick On November 9, 2007 @ 9:56 pm
Typically they want to overpay you and ask you to pay their ‘shipping agent’ or whatever. You deposit their “check” in your bank and pay their shipper. Later your bank says the check is bogus and they charge you back the amount of the check. You are obviously out the money you paid the “shipper” (that’s the scam) but you may also face charges (both financial and possibly criminal) from the bank. The scammer will never come to claim the item they purchased by the way so you are free to sell it to another scammer (tongue in cheek). If it seems too good – it is!
» Posted By Dick On November 2, 2007 @ 11:22 am
I think Gerry's comments are quite valid, but we have to keep in perspective that many many people on the net are really novices and easily seduced. You can't be too cautious! After you've encountered the scammers more than once you're antennae are up, but first timers are easily caught up in the excitement of a good deal or selling something.
Which is another point. Rob's baiting example was a classic example of the scammers going after the SELLER not the buyer. The old adage 'caveat emptor' (Latin for "Let the buyer beware.") has really been turned upside down. It is easy to understand how someone who is selling something can easily be caught up in the moment of having found a buyer. I think it the psychology of this activity that really provides a fertile field for the scammers.
» Posted By Dick On October 2, 2007 @ 8:32 am
Since these scammers seem rather un-bright by reusing the same email address's, I have added them to my blocked address's list on yahoo.
Here are the ones I've personally encountered so far. Thanks to others who've posted their encounters also.
kelvin desmond <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Stitu Diana <email@example.com>
bill adams <firstname.lastname@example.org>
» Posted By Dick On September 30, 2007 @ 9:30 pm
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This guy is busy. He's the third attempt to scam me after I put a furniture ad on craigslist. Used the same name "bill adams <email@example.com>" which surprised me. I feel somewhat sorry for those who do get scammed.
I'm surprised that no one has tried to scam me for the cemetery plots I have listed.
» Posted By Dick On September 30, 2007 @ 3:56 pm